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HELP US GOD today, tonight to forgive but not forget to give more than we get to live with less so we get IT... LIVE AND HELP LIVE IS THE WAY TO LOVE. AMEN.
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
Father bless these poeple with holyness, so they maybecome one like us. They always whata now what life os we just learning to walk let us live a nother year so we can prove our worthy ness to you and so on. please forgive us our sins as we let though who tresspass agenst us buit do not lead us in t...
Posted by Apostolic Emissary Clifford Crate
God has really been all over me lately to prepare myself for treaching (teaching and preaching together). When it comes to Bible translations for instance, I like using the KJV for studying and strengthening myself. But that translation is really best for those who already have a decent un...
Posted by Daniel Arendt
There are those in the world who say LBGT, or even other types of people, are being grafted on to either efforts to change faith deposits of assorted kinds, or are being grafted on to efforts to advance negative atheism, or both. These seem incredibly aristocratic notions, perhaps used by assorted ...
Posted by Edgar Henderson,III
I'm just getting back on my feet after my partner, Marc, and I got our flu shots (which ended up giving us both a mild but extended case of the flu). I'm still new to this kind of social networking, so I apologize if I'm not quite up to speed on everything yet. I'm a little overw...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning! Well here is an interesting turn of events! I read this prayer this morning and my very 1st thoughts were, "I disagree with this!" I have read Ernest Holmes, quite diligently for a while. My passion for connection to spirit, (which is ever present in spite of my awareness or ...
Posted by Sherry Rheaume
That which the dream shows is the shadow of such wisdom as exists in man, even if during his waking state he may know nothing about it... We do not know it because we are fooling away our time with outward and perishing things, and are asleep in regard to that which is real within ourselves.
Posted by MIN. RAHAMEEM KEDAR BEN-ISRAEL D.d. H.p. B.Msc.
INVOCATION TO HIGHER INNER CONSCIOUSNESSES FOR STARTING THE WEEK SPIRITUALLY ATTUNED: I CALL FORTH INTO THE INNERMOST CENTER OF MY MIND, NATURE’S INTELLIGENCE, UNIVERSAL MIND, THE BEING, TO RELEASE ALL NEGATIVITY FROM THE WEEK JUST PASSED AND THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. I OPEN MYSELF AS I START THI...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning! Wow! It's day 19 already! in our 21 days of prayer. I already am planning to start at day one when this set is over. How are You doing with it? How are you feeling about it? Todays prayer is an awesome one. It is awesome awareness once you get it. It has taken me years to reali...
Posted by Pastor Tyler Odell
I grew up Baptisit & Methodist. We moved around a lot & I went to whatever church was in the nieghborhood . I studied with Jevohah Witnesses and Seventh Adventist. My ex hushband was Catholic. I was baptised at the church of Christ. Presently I am comparing different Bible translation and re...
Posted by Rev. Dr. Dean And Rev. Barbara Rose
Einstein once said: science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind. Now science has evidence that a spiritual dimension exists beyond the space-time continuum. Now science has proof that emotions can and do control cells in our body. Now science has evidence of parap...
Posted by Daniel Arendt
A lot of religious dictionaries and such don't even mention any ULC branch, and just lump "Universalism" in with "Unitarianism" (no real relation to any ULC main), but that's not the biggest challenge to Universalism. It has been said that Universalism, likening certain Absolute cultural ...
Posted by Rev. Paul D. Ragsdale Jr
Hello fellow christians, Today I am in need of prayer, some of you know some of my trials and tribulations. I just turned 44 yrs old and 205 days smoke free since then I have went from 250 lbs to 300 according to my Doctors scales, I drove a semi truck for about 11 yrs before getting Diabetes and so...
Posted by Jillian Merdak
Had a visit with a friend who I havent seen in a while, glad she came by, I have been thinking about her latley and with life being so hectic these past few months, its been hard keeping in touch with alot of people...glad she is doing okay, alot better then she was doing, also very glad her son , w...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Morning! There are days I cannot get on this site, and where the site will not let me post. I have had that problem for the last few days. Please forgive me, I do come here to post, but for whatever reason, it won't let me on. So, with no further ado, here are the last few prayer day postin...
Posted by Pastor Jerico J. Brown
Will somebody just take 1 minute out of your day to pray for something or someone. Today I will be praying for an entire hour 12-1 and if you have anything you want to be prayed for or lifted up to God will you join me, if only for 1 minute. If you are not able to do it today I will do it everyday a...
Posted by Julie-Anne Buslewicz
Hi to everyone at ULC! I am proud to be a member with such an open and diverse group. I have chosen to become ordained so that I can reach out to those who feel they don't fit in in organized religion, have been shunned for their li...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
How can I raise an emotionally healthy child Meeting The Five Critical Needs Of Children...And Parents Too!? Remember that the most important lessons you teach your children are communicated by the way you live, rather than by what you say. Although children are born with unique personaliti...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
Having marriage expectations is like kids opening their gifts on Christmas morning. Their heads are full of dreams, and the anticipation is almost as fun as opening the package. Not long after, reality sets in. A few dreams were not quite fulfilled, and the present that caused such a fever pitch of ...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
If your ex is showing you a little bit of interest, or seems more interested in going out and spending time with you than before, or if you notice signs that your ex is trying to flirt with you, then it's okay to be a little hopeful but you need to avoid getting ahead of yourself. Are you askin...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
Did you just experience a break up? Are you wondering how to go get an ex back? Almost nearly every adult as experienced some kind of a break up, and most just work on moving on rather than looking for a way to get an ex back. But if you are over playing the victim and want to put some work in to ge...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
Relationships are delicate bonds that need to be built up and maintained in order to keep them healthy and allow them to prosper. Unfortunately, break ups do happen, and they are nerve wracking, stressful and frustrating. If you are involved in a relationship that breaks up, you may be thinking that...
Posted by Rev. Randall Gullickson
It seems the list of reasons for a relationship exploding is never ending. The things that annoy or enrage us about each other can sometimes seem so long it’s a wonder that anyone stays together at all. But when you stop looking at every minute individual thing, it’s possible to gather reasons toget...
Posted by Jaye Westermann
i can feel myself, drifting into a place of co-consciousness with the Universe. i am asking for healing, strength, beauty and truth. i know that these are in abundance to me if i just reach into myself and find them. i am One with the Universe, and the Universe finds me daily. ...
Posted by Seer Ashlamaz
Believe it or not, this is the biggest question inside of everyone, that is still walking around- wide awake- yet still unconscious. The reason they are still unconscious, is because, they have not yet discovered that they are, in essence GOD. Sure they can accept the fact that they a...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I think this forum was designed with the thought that, minister and friend's could exchange spiritual ideas, to up build one another up, study and worship God whatever you perceive him to be. I myself have learned, cried and laughed on this site...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning. It's 5:17 am and I am off to work. Have a great day! I'm looking forward to practicing letting go of my prayers, and praying .. for everyone today. Cheers Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 15” Meditative Thought: “Prayer is a tool that unites the world.” –...
Posted by Winston Williams
After years of studying the many religions of the world, I have come to understand one fundamental truth; God did not create any religion(s). All religions were developed as a result of man's interpretation of God's creation. Whatever God create is always universal. Which is to say that al...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Oh My! Do I ever know this one! Sometimes fear is so great when I am in need.. I am afraid to stop praying! And so far! for me, that hasn't worked. Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 14” Meditative Thought: Prayer Treatment Step 6 – Release: Once you have said the prayer, you ...
Posted by Rev. John Ferrario
Over the past few weeks, I have received 2 emails from "females" posing as "members" who wrote to me having to do with meeting their love match and one wanted my email address as well. I did not join up to find mates or anything like that. I am very disappointed that things like this are oc...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
Knowing Church teaching is essential to the exercise of faithful citizenship Column by Most Rev. Samuel J. Aquila, D.D. Bishop of Fargo Printed in the September 2008 issue of New Earth, the newspaper for the Diocese of Fargo Politics consists in the public conversations and decisions of ...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
Most holy aposle st jude faithful servent and fraind of jesus the Church honors and involes you universally, as the patron of hopeless cases, of things almost depaired of. PRey for me I am so helpless and alone. Make use I implore you, of that particulare privileges givenn to you, to bring visible a...
Posted by Winston Williams
I always hesitate before putting my opinions out there for the scrutiny of other people. Yet, there is an intrinsic need to be heard, or at the very least, be acknowledged. The coscious mind of man is such that it wants to know, as well as to be known. Therefore, when we communicate, we not on...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
Too often in our society gender has set the stage for all types of abuses. In the fifties for the most part women stayed home and the men dominated the work force and as time passed this slowly changed however men still for the most part, statistically any...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Hi. Oh, I am glad today is over. Work started at 6 am, and for that i am up at 4:30 ! I was unable to get online before I left for work today. I wish I had been able; I like that way meditations and prayers start off my day. Because i was unable to read todays, I practiced the suggestions ...
Posted by Bill Carleton
PREMATURE BURIALS (and a Few of My Other Minor Mistakes) When I was a kid, I often echoed the words I’d heard from William Bendix’s character in the 1940s Life of Riley radio comedy series: “This is the Life!” When I felt good, I would feel even better if I could first puff out my chest, and the...
Posted by Bill Carleton
Testimony of a Chiastic Christian Please forgive any appearance of trying to be erudite or sophisticated. I wish there were a simpler adjective than “chiastic.” If you know of one, please let me know? In my youth, I was even more of a dilettante, eager to show off me...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning! Well, yesterdays prayer focus was about our unififcation. Skip sugggested a mantra of "God is, I am". By the time I go to work and settled into my routine, I had forgotten Skip's mantra, so I used one I thought was close, "I am one with God< God is a part of me, I am one with...
Posted by Jizo Hodo Thompson
One who thinks constantly, He deceived me He hurt me Will never find peace One who lets go of resentment and hatred &#...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I would ask you to take a look at the standard KJV Matthew 12:31-32 Where Christ himself states; Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but blasphemy of the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the So...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 11” Meditative Thought: Prayer Treatment Step 3 – Unification: The unification stage is about awakening to our oneness with The Universe. “God is, I am,” is a defining affirmation that helped me to expand my Unity consciousness. During this step, I speak word...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
HI. I tried to post this earlier today, but ran into some difficulty for some reason. God is everywhere! You may notice at times I choose not to use the word "god". I realized at a time in my spiritual growth, some time ago, the the Christian god I had grown up with had severe handicaps and limit...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I do not believe that I compared you to any ones flavor, and I do believe I did agree with you when it comes to the different translation and changes in scripture that have taken place over time. I can even agree that millions have...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I Knew you held religion in contempt!!! I've studied the Hebrew, Greek, Latin, for years and I'm the first to admit religion has evolved like many things. There has been one constant throughout the prophets and the new testament, as well as the lo...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I agree, I just believe we should be sure of the facts before we go off the deep end. ...
Posted by Joanna Zarach
Hi everyone, I am from Illinois, but I am getting married in Wisconsin next Saturday. We've asked our friend to perfrorm the ceremony and have come across this issue of sponsorship. I am looking for someone to sponsor an-out of state ULC ordained minister. If anyone can help me with this I...
Posted by Dr. Anthony ADRIAN
Here we go again. I say MAN-made books due to the fact of my knowledge of theology history! I have heard it from nearly every Christian who corresponds with me. It is the statement that the bible-- being a perfect book, written by forty writers all inspired by God-- has remained unchange...
Posted by George Arthur Lareau
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Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning. Thanksgiving Weekend is over for us up here. But being thankful never ends. This past weekend brought up some inner personal battles for me. Sarcasim, frustration, loneliness. Amazing how the mind works. So much to be grateful for yet a part of me struggled with the things missed, not...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
What a subject !!! We have a responsibility to keep the fox out of the hen house, however we also bare the responsibility to make darn sure the fox is really a fox, before we shoot the fox. ...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I myself do not understand many things my God has done, but as Christ said; in John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you heavenly thing? Now as for forty years in the desert for the go...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Day 8. I could use a treatment ! Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 8” Meditative Thought: I attend The University of Transformational Studies and Leadership at the Agape International Spiritual Center, where we study a form of prayer called “prayer treatments.” I am asked qui...
Posted by Rev. James Arrvia III
A carpenter and his apprentices were traveling through the province of Qi in search of building materials.They saw a giant tree; five men holding hands could not encompass its girth, and its crown reached almost to the clouds. “Let's not waste our time with this tree,” said the master carpente...
Posted by Rev. Paul D. Ragsdale Jr
Bond County, Illinois is not very well represented when it comes to Charity’s providing Clothing to citizens in the county. My hope is to provide some type of low income store to help those in need yet keeping those from taking what they don’t need. I have been getting the message o...
Posted by Terri Swadey
I just performed my first wedding last month and enjoyed it tremendously. My nerves settled the minute I saw the bride walking down the aisle; and throughout the service, I felt a great rapport with the couple, who later expressed delight in the service. Now I am looking to find...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
I would have to agree that religion does not prove the existence or non-existence of God. I would also point out that science does not prove the existence or non-existence of God, nor does science have an answer for where or what created t...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning! It is Thanksgiving here in Canada. I wish you all the best, may your prayers, dreams and goals all manifest for you and your loved ones. Here is a tough one for me. Having a local prayer partner. So, for me today, I will pray with you. My prayer is to find someone to stand with me ...
Posted by Jizo Hodo Thompson
A young man eagerly described what he dreamed of doing for the poor. Said the Master, when do you propose to make your dream come true? The young man answered, as soon as opportunity arrives. Opportunity never arrives, said the master. It's here. _Anthony de Mello- ...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
Father Hear me when i call, O GOD of my righteouseness thou hast enlarged me when i was in distress; Have murcy upon me and hear my preayer. Give ear to my words, O Lord consider my Meditations. For in death there is no remmberance of thee in the grave who shall give thee thanks. O Lor...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
he who said to the lord i shall not put the lords name in vain wich mean i shall not challange the word of the lord he who thougsh stones shall through the last stong before god. he is what ya think he is what ya are he will not come to you in the daysd of the end of time. on the last day he m...
Posted by Rev Larry D King
Growing up, my dad was a Southern Baptist minister, so we were at church every time the doors were opened, and consequently, I have heard my share of sermons. Being raised in one very particular religion, I alway...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning! Day 6. Jump in and start 21 days of prayer anytime. don't think you have to wait because you missed the beginning, day 1! Start on this day, then add the ones you missed at the end if thats what it takes to get you thinking in a new way. Todays message is about vibration, singin...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! It is Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada. To my American neighbors, I wish you a great Columbus Day weekend! Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 5” Meditative Thought: When is a good time for prayer? Prayer is our communication with our inner spirit; our t...
Posted by Rev. James Arrvia III
"TheRrisky Climb" In the middle of a storm, a pilgrim reaches an inn and the owner asks where he is going. “I’m going to the mountains,” he answers. “Forget it,” says the innkeeper, “it’s a risky climb, and the weather is awful.” “But I’m going up,” answers the pilgrim, “if my heart gets there ...
Posted by Harry Underwood
Even before Israel was created (or re-created) as a nation-state, the religion of Judaism was treated by both its adherents and detractors as a religion and ethnicity concurrently. For its adherents, the ethnicity was wrapped up within the religion after the forced disappearance of Judea as a ...
Posted by Mother Crow .
I have spent many years learning about Crow Medicine and living within its reality. And trust me not of my own desire to learn – this path is truly not a chosen path but literally takes you along kicking & screaming if necessary. You are so strongly guided along your path that there i...
Posted by Rev. Charles Morris
I believe in the power of my own/our own mind; that often overlooked part that some people might call an ESP.I don't believe in "Mind Reading" . I do believe that I am my own creator and my own destroyer and take the credit and consequences for each of these. I believe in the mag...
Posted by Pastor Tom .
This is the ceremony that I have used to quite a few couples. It was an example ceremony I found on the web and modified heavily. Feel free to comment. The ----- obviously are replaced with the individuals names :) OFFICIANT: All please gather around on this beautifu...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning. Day 4. Yesterdays prayer and affirmation was a handy little one! I found myself slipping a couple of times into feeling sorry for myself, in a way I hadn't thought or noticed before. Just a little thought that ran through my mind, something like, "of for goodness sake, will you g...
Posted by Rev. James Arrvia III
*The Search of the Path* “I am willing to leave everything. Please, take me as a disciple.” “How does a man choose his Path?” “Through sacrifice. A path that demands sacrifice is a true path.” The abbot bumped into a bookcase. A very rare vase fell down and the young man threw himself to the fl...
Posted by Lady Shandril oc Arran
This past weekend was a very spiritual one for me. On Friday night, my family and I went to see the movie "Zombieland", an apocolyptic comedy starring Woody Harrelson. That may not seem like a very spiritual act to many people, but my family is very dear to me, and we are all zombi...
Posted by Rev. Shelli Schwengler
They say when life hands you lemons, make lemonade, but if you're anything like me, you ruminate on why you were given the lemons to begin with. I have been sitting here thinking of all the wonderful things that have happened to me this year, and there have been many, why do I ruminate on...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Good Morning. Yesterdays assignment was to note through the day my connect to god, the divine and all that it is; adundance, joy, love, .. and be those things.. be conscious of it. I found that I went along through the day like I normally would until suddenly something would remind me of t...
Posted by Rev. Mike Spradley
The reson my first Wedding will always be my best, is because I Married my Oldest Son to his first and hopefuly only Wife. It was a joy that I cannot explain. If there are any Ministers,Rev,Pastors,Bishops,Ect. out there that have also had the chance to Marrie one of there Children please reply t...
Posted by Rev.Frank Matwyuk
I became an ordaine minister for a change in my life and maybe if all goes good open a church along with some kind of christian club for trouble teens so we can reach out to those who need some one to take them under there wing to guide them on the right path because I too was a troubled teen, so wi...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
the lord said come to me and i will be your life and salvation. what he meanss do on to him what you do unto others which will come seeing all eyes of the lord. He who comes to the lord will be with him for ever. The lord has come on this day to help all in his need we who love him will ...
Posted by Rev Robert E Wright JR
Father Bless the children and people of the earth for one day our time will come. We who live in the lord prase the lord with all our hearts and soul. Father we as you for your fogiveness in this time of need we are all one gods children and need a little guidence in our life. We hope to serve...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Last night I started my 21 day journey of prayer with Skip. I found a small notebook, wrote down what my assignment was and the affirmation, then wrote my letter to God, to the Divine. I told God about my fears of strugglings financially, of the needs I have that must be met, and how my reques...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
Join me on a Spiritual journey wth one of my spiritual advisors, Skip Jennings. Just For Today “21 Days of Prayer-Day 1” Meditative Thought: Edwene Gaines, spiritual leader, and abundance specialist, once said, “Do something for 21days and the practice becomes embedded into your consciou...
Posted by Cedric Gittens
I'm having a debate with my girlfriend and I would just like a little outside feed back on it. I'm wondering is it wrong to take a innocent creature and turn them into a killer. My grlfriend feels it's a cat just being a cat. What do you think?
Posted by Jizo Hodo Thompson
It's not the years in your life that count, It's the life in your years. ...
Posted by Cedric Gittens
I've always believed that everything happens for a reason. I always told myself life was hard to teach me a lesson. I was knock down so I would learn to get back up. Now I just don't know. I felt that I was finally where I was meant to be and everything would be good now. However I f...
Posted by Lisa Herek
The month of October has always been my favorite. This is when I recall the trials and triumphs of the past year, and begin to make my plans (hint: resolutions) for the coming year. It's when I count my blessings, take inventory, and nurture seeds of hope for the year that is coming...
Posted by Sean Snarr-Jones
October 1, 2009 Serving the Higher Self The Ego In most spiritual circles, the ego gets a pretty bad rap. The reason for this is that the ego, to some extent, is the principle in our psyches that separates us from one an...
Posted by Reverend Jim Hall
I have tried to understand religion most of my life. Looking at what was taught and how people treat each other afterwards. I was tired of hearing that you need to worship Jesus and took a closer look at what I really heard and what was important. I started to realize that what most religions ...
Posted by Rev Robert Fuller
Perhaps you do not understand because you are looking at "modern religion" and not the "Church" which are the obedient children of God. I must however agree that "modern religion" has become as the Pharisee. Children of God will always recall the mighty hand of God when he is angered. &...
Posted by Rev. Wesley Combs
Hello to anyone and everyone who reads this. I'm very new to the ULC and I have to say that i�...
Posted by Jizo Hodo Thompson
Our foolish ideas of happiness keep us eternally searching for the unfindable. Ensnared by these false thoughts, we do not recognize the joy that lies within us. -Venerable Wuling-
Posted by Apostolic Emissary Clifford Crate
Its hard for me to believe but God seems to be leading to a full time ministry. This will mean a lot of travelling and meeting new people. It also means that I will have to come with some way to raise funds necessary. And this, in turn, means I will have to charge for services...which I d...
Posted by Jizo Hodo Thompson
Disapointment inevitably follows expectation. -Venerable Wuling-
Posted by Apostolic Emissary Clifford Crate
Here in the last few days as I have been sharing God's plans for His ministry, I have been receiving such great words of support and encouragement. And I also consider myself blessed in that satan has been trying to throw doubt and fear on me, which only lets me know that I must somehow be on t...
Posted by Rev. John Ferrario
How does one measure the a man/woman whether in be in life or in death?
Posted by Apple Lin
The sweet-scented osmanthus is fragrant all over the city The Mid-autumn Festival Hangzhou of season, will float all over sweet-scented osmanthus fragrant all over the city. I think if admire the full moon, have Pinghu autumn scenery of moon only, little that " whether the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomou...
Posted by Rev. Meghan Gurley
Having studied religion and ethics for 7 years, and worked in ethics (business, non-profit, and government), I would love to hear y'alls comments on several issues I'm working on for a business school class. 1. How does religion fit into the workplace? Everyone has some belief syste...
Posted by Apostolic Emissary Clifford Crate
I thought I would share how I came to the full realization of Gods calling for me. I've known for many years that I God wants me to be a helper and teacher, but as for preaching and leading a church...that didn't come until I started searching my genealogy. I discovered my ancestors, the S...
Posted by Mike Zehmisch
Hey all. I actually got ordained because two of my friends wanted me to marry them. Religion has always been a big part of my life, so I had no problem doing it. I want to start a church, and am asking for any advice that anyone can give me.
Posted by Brian Percival
I have three treasures, which I hold fast and watch closely. The first is mercy. The second is frugality. The third is humility. From mercy comes courage. From frugality comes generosity. From humility comes leadership. Now if one were bold but had no mercy, If one were broad b...
Posted by Rev. Dennis Ables
This says it all, please check it out. Cover Fridays: One Love - Bob Marley's MySpace Blog |
Posted by Mitchell Moore
Had to rejoin to be a ordained minister. I have a very sick friend in the hospital right now and trying to get her to come to. This all started Wednesday. If at all possible can i ask that you all send her some healing prayers? She too was a minister here but may not be on the record anymore. Her na...